So I'm not going to write much commentary around this speech, other than to highlight that apart from Section 377A, I very strongly disagreed with other parts of the bill. The speech below is based on the prepared text and has been (mostly) checked against delivery. I ran out of time, but the part that I skipped basically contained some of the more offensive quotes from http://www.keep377a.com/, which I will not post here.
I will (hopefully later this week) write another post to respond to all the comments posted on this blog, which I have refrained from replying to earlier.
Oh, and the video of my speech will be available on the CNA website for a week.
Speech on the Penal Code (Amendment) Bill
1. Mr Speaker Sir, I rise to speak on the Penal Code (Amendment) Bill, and on the petition I had presented to Parliament earlier. I will first speak on two aspects of the amendment bill not related to Section 377A, and then on Section 377A and the petition.
2. The Penal Code is one of the most important statutes that we have, because the criminal law touches so many people so intimately. This bill represents the first review of the Penal Code in 22 years. It seeks to do a lot, and yet it leaves so much undone.
3. The bill introduces some positive changes. For instance, there is a new offence of sexual grooming. Going by the experience in the UK, this could well become an important weapon in the arsenal against sexual predators, especially those on the Internet.
4. Another important change is the criminalization of child sex tourism, extending to acts performed overseas. Notwithstanding potential issues of enforcement, this will help greatly in closing the door on Singaporeans engaging in such despicable practices.
5. But Sir, some aspects of the amendment bill are not so positive. I will focus on three in my speech.
General increase in maximum imprisonment sentences
6. Firstly, clause 105 of the amendment bill increases the maximum sentences for a number of offences. I echo Ms Sylvia Lim’s comments on this increase, and would add to them.
7. Sir, depriving a person of his or her liberty is a very serious matter. We should not be so hasty in increasing the maximum sentences for so many offences. The general increase in maximum fines is clearly justifiable, even necessary, given that they were last reviewed in 1952.
8. But while money loses its value due to inflation, there is no equivalent concept when it comes to imprisonment. The intrinsic value of a person’s liberty does not diminish over time. If anything, with a higher standard of living and greater economic opportunities today, the opportunity cost of a day in jail is arguably a lot higher now than in the past.
9. In addition, an excessive maximum sentence could well be oppressive towards accused persons in the manner described by Ms Sylvia Lim. This insidious effect is undesirable, unfair and detrimental to the balance of the criminal justice system.
10. MHA should therefore provide adequate justification for each increase in maximum sentence. In its public consultation paper last year, MHA stated that it has “avoided increasing imprisonment terms unnecessarily”. It should disclose the different factors considered for each maximum sentence increased, and why it had concluded that the existing maximum sentence was inadequate. It has not done so.
11. To my mind, it is dangerous to increase the maximum sentences of so many offences, without proper justification. It seems to pay insufficient respect to the fundamental importance of a person’s liberty. In the absence of such justifications, I have no choice but to disagree with this aspect of the amendment bill.
Marital immunity
12. I now turn to the issue of marital rape.
13. The Penal Code has historically provided an absolute defence of marital immunity. A husband is legally incapable of raping his wife. In other words, regardless of whether or not she consents to sex, regardless of whether or not he forces himself upon her, it is simply impossible in law for a husband to rape his wife.
14. The amendment bill proposes to take a “calibrated approach” in limiting this defence. Marital immunity will now not apply where divorce or separation proceedings have been commenced or completed, or where the wife has applied for or obtained an injunction or protection order against the husband.
15. MHA’s stand is that total abolition of marital immunity would be “too radical” and would change “the whole complexion of marriage in our society”, citing “a need to strike a balance between the needs of women who require protection and the general concerns about conjugal rights and the expression of intimacy in a marriage.”
16. Sir, I was flabbergasted when I read that. Perhaps it is because I am young and unmarried, and hold a romantic view of marriage, untarnished by its reality. But surely that is the conception that we should still uphold. The proposed change still sends the message that in most circumstances, a husband cannot be considered to have raped his wife even if he knew that she did not consent. Under this change, the critical issue for rape in a marriage is not consent, but whether the wife has taken certain legal steps.
17. MHA talks about “conjugal rights”, suggesting that a husband has some sort of right to sex from his wife. This seems to be derived from the archaic view that a wife, by marrying the husband, has irrevocably consented to sex with her husband. It is linked to the view that a wife is some sort of property of the husband.
18. Sir, such a view has no place in a modern society, not even in a limited form. A man does not have the right to demand sex from his wife at any time. Sex without consent is rape, whether it takes place within or outside a marriage.
19. To me, it is simple: no means no, and rape is rape. Rape within a marriage is the same as rape outside marriage. In a modern society, marriage is a partnership of equals. We are a modern society. So why are we still retaining this defence, even in a limited form? I cannot fathom that.
20. MHA also cites “the expression of intimacy in a marriage”. Sir, if sex without consent is seen as being a permissible expression of intimacy in a marriage, then I fear for marriages and married people in Singapore. What sort of conception of marriage do we have, if the law recognizes sex without consent as being legitimate? That cannot be right.
21. I can do no better than to quote the response of the Association of Wwomen for Action and Research to last year’s public consultation paper:
“Rape is not sex, it is violence. No wife who has been raped considers the act to be merely sex. It is a form of violence, aimed at violating the victim in one of the most humiliating manners. … To equate sex with rape is to equate a caress with a beating.
[…]
Throughout the eighties and beyond, girls were continually warned in schools to be alert for sexual predators, and given the message that rape was the worst possible violation against a woman. It is truly ironic that these same girls, now adult women, are told that they have to subject themselves to this most humiliating of assaults by none other than their husbands.”
22. The amendment bill effectively penalizes the most vulnerable of wives: those who have no choice but to continue in a marriage, for whatever reason. It says that if a woman has the wherewithal to leave, then we will protect her from rape, but not if she is completely dependent on her husband. That again cannot be right.
23. For all of these reasons, I disagree with the proposed change to Section 375 of the Penal Code. Instead, I urge the Government to repeal marital immunity in its entirety. That is what a modern society needs, that is what fairness requires, and that is what justice demands.
Petition presented on 22 October 2007
24. Sir, I now turn to the petition I presented to this House earlier, which argues that Section 377A would be unconstitutional upon the repeal of Section 377. For ease of convenience, I will refer to Section 377A as “377A”, and Section 377 as “377”.
25. The amendment bill amends 377 to legalise private, consensual anal and oral sex between heterosexual adults. But 377A, which criminalizes the same acts between men, is retained. This discriminates against homosexual and bisexual men. The amendment of 377 without also repealing 377A is therefore unconstitutional under Article 12(1) of the Constitution, which provides that “All persons are equal before the law and entitled to the equal protection of the law.” That is because it does not satisfy the legal requirements for derogating from Article 12(1).
26. A valid derogation from Article 12(1) must satisfy the “rational nexus” test, that is, it must be rationally connected to a legitimate purpose of the statute in question. So we must first consider the purposes of the Penal Code.
27. The preambles of both the Penal Code and the amendment bill are silent on this. So let’s turn to what MHA has said. Its public consultation paper on the draft amendment bill dated 8 November 2006 stated that the review is intended to make the Penal Code “more effective in maintaining a safe and secure society in today’s context”. So, according to the Government, the objective of the Penal Code is to maintain a safe and secure society.
28. But 377A criminalizes consensual sexual acts between men, even if it takes place in the privacy of their own homes. How does the private sexual conduct of consenting adults make Singapore unsafe or less secure?
29. Furthermore, criminal lawyers generally accept that the criminal law should be concerned with two elements, and two elements only: harm and culpability, of which only harm is relevant here.
30. Professor Michael Hor teaches criminal law at the NUS Law Faculty. In a recent article, he explained that criminal activity must entail harm to others that is recognizable and tangible. In other words, if an act does not harm others, then it should not be a crime. This is taught to first-year law students in their first few weeks, and indeed I recall being taught this over ten years ago.
31. Professor Hor went on, and I quote:
“The government has been strangely silent about the harm that 377A is intended to prevent. Indeed consistent statements over a number of years from the highest officials of the land lead any reasonable observer to think that the government no longer believes, if indeed it did before, that the sort of activity contemplated by 377A is harmful at all. If corroboration were required, it lies in the repeated assurances of the government that 377A will not be enforced – apparently because there is no harm to be prevented, no offender to be rehabilitated, no potential offender to be deterred, and no victim to be satisfied.
One might, of course, disagree with the government’s position on the harmfulness of 377A activity, but once that position is taken, how can it be right for 377A activity to remain a crime?”
32. The Law Society, in its submission to MHA on the draft amendment bill, similarly noted:
“… the criminal law’s proper function is to protect others from harm by punishing harmful conduct. Private consensual homosexual conduct between adults does not cause harm recognizable by the criminal law. Thus, regardless of one’s personal view of the morality or otherwise of such conduct, it should not be made a criminal offence.”
33. Private, consensual sexual acts between adult males does not impact on the safety and security of society. Furthermore, it is accepted that the criminal law addresses activities that harm others, but the Government seems to accept that 377A does not cause harm. So how can 377A possibly be linked to a legitimate purpose of the Penal Code? The answer is that it does not, and it cannot.
34. And the Government has effectively admitted this. It does not seek to justify the retention of 377A on grounds of societal safety and security, or of harm to others from the conduct contemplated by 377A. Instead, its reasons for retaining 377A are that the majority of Singaporeans disapprove of homosexuality, and so 377A should be retained to reflect, or “sign-post”, this majority view of Singaporeans. But reflecting the morality of the majority is not a stated aim of the Penal Code, nor is it an accepted objective of the criminal law.
35. Clearly then, 377A has no rational connection with any legitimate aim of the Penal Code. Its retention, which leads to different treatments of men engaging in oral and anal sex, and of heterosexual adults doing the same, without any legally acceptable justification, must therefore be unconstitutional.
36. I would even argue that there can be no legitimate aim of the Penal Code with which 377A can be rationally connected, so as to justify its retention. The amendment of 377 permits heterosexual adults to engage in private, consensual oral and anal sex. By definition then, we are saying that there is no harm arising from such private and consensual acts between heterosexual adults.
37. Why should it be any different when those acts are performed between adult men? What is the differentiating factor that leads to harm? There is none. There is no harm that would be recognised by the criminal law.
38. It is not harm that results from such acts being performed between adult men, but the moral disgust that the majority says it feels. But there is a very good reason why the criminal law should not reflect public morality. And that is because doing so can lead to the discriminatory oppression of minorities.
39. In times past and in other countries, public morality and disgust have been used to justify slavery; discrimination against racial and religious minorities; and discrimination against women, including not permitting them to work or to vote. All of these are now universally recognised as being wrong and immoral. Let us not perpetuate or repeat the mistakes of others in the past.
40. Sir, the “sign-posting” argument is fundamentally flawed. It is couched in the language of “the majority”. But let us not forget another phrase involving the majority: the tyranny of the majority. That is precisely why the constitutional guarantees of equality and equal protection are entrenched as a fundamental liberty in Article 12(1).
41. Even if we accept the “sign-posting” argument, the amendment bill seems to reflect public morality in a selective and discriminatory manner. It is surely undisputed that society views extra-marital sex as immoral. And surely, most Singaporeans disapprove of prostitution, and all types of discrimination, such as age, racial and gender discrimination. But we have not criminalized any of these.
42. Indeed, the amendment bill even repeals Section 498, which makes it an offence for a man to entice, take away or detain a married woman with the intent of having “illicit intercourse” with her. The reason given is that it is an archaic offence which is no longer relevant in today’s context.
43. But public morality in today’s society remains firmly opposed to extra-marital sex. So why do we selectively reflect public morality with respect to private, consensual acts between adult men, but not public morality on adultery? Why are we not “sign-posting” society’s disapproval of adultery by retaining Section 498, without pro-actively enforcing it?
44. The Senior Minister of State has argued that repealing Section 498 is not an endorsement of adultery or extra-marital sex. In the same way, repealing 377A is also not an endorsement of homosexuality. Such inconsistency is discriminatory.
45. And taking the “sign-posting” argument to its logical conclusion, if we repeal Section 498, are we then telling the world that seducing a married woman, hence leading to adultery, is acceptable? By lifting the marital rape defence in limited circumstances, are we endorsing marital rape in the other circumstances?
46. “Sign-posting” is all or nothing. We cannot “sign-post” selectively, with some provisions reflecting public morality and others not; it does not work that way. It is a fundamentally flawed argument that does not stand up to logic or reason or the principles of a democratic society, and so we should shy away from it.
47. Sir, Mr Cheng, a Singapore graduate student in the US, e-mailed this to me:
“Retaining 377A on the basis that the 'conservative' majority is uncomfortable with homosexuality sets a dangerous precedence [sic] for our society.
It suggests that any majority group can now regulate the private activities of a minority group because it is uncomfortable with it or feels threatened by it.
Imagine what this means for the many majority-vs-minority fault-lines within the Singapore society - Chinese vs others, citizens vs non-citizens, heartlanders vs cosmopolitans, a majority religious group vs a minority one.
Breeding the majority group's self-righteousness to demand deference from the minorities will weaken the social cohesion of our society based on mutual respect and tolerance.
The repeal of 377A will make a clear statement on how, in Singapore, we will always have to find ways to live harmoniously with people who are not like us.”
48. Many people have described the repeal of 377A as a “slippery slope”. I think Mr Cheng has identified the true slippery slope that we face today.
49. For all of these reasons, I believe the continued retention of 377A to be unconstitutional. I think the arguments in the petition are valid and correct in law, and so I presented it to Parliament. I humbly ask this House to consider these arguments, and acknowledge their cogency in this debate.
Universality of non-discrimination argument
50. Sir, that was the petition. I will now speak on why I support the repeal of 377A, quite apart from its unconstitutionality.
51. Contrary to how many have sought to frame the issue, the repeal of 377A is not a gay issue. It is not about gay rights. It is not just for gays, or friends or relatives of gays.
52. No. It is about fairness, justice and non-discrimination. It is about tolerance, understanding and inclusiveness. It is about upholding the fundamental protections afforded by the Constitution, the basic pillars underpinning our country. These are issues for all Singaporeans.
53. The response to the petition bore this out. The signatories were a broad and diverse group, showing that the issues cut across all lines and resonate universally with people. Straight and gay, male and female, young, middle-aged and old, civil servants, professionals and students, religious and non-religious – they all signed the petition. They all understood the guiding light of treating others as you want them to treat you. They were united by the common belief that 377A is unfair, unjust and wrong, and hence should be repealed.
54. And such lengths they went to, to convey the strength of their belief. So many, including straight men, went out to collect signatures on their own accord. They did this voluntarily, without being asked. An 18-year-old student collected 70 signatures. Two others collected 150 each.
55. Madam Tan, a 63-year-old mother of two heterosexual sons, collected signatures from her peers. She took it upon herself to do this. She believed that she needed to do it, “for a healthy attitude towards life”. She collected five signatures.
56. Apart from the petition, there was also an online open letter to the Prime Minister calling for a repeal of 377A. This open letter, which collected 8120 signatures, was handed to the Prime Minister’s Office earlier today. A Mr Goh signed it, and he articulated the universality of the issue:
“I must admit that I am somewhat “homophopic”, [sic] but I believe that nobody should be discriminated against [for] his belief, or in this case sexual inclination. If they make me uncomfortable, I just don't mix in their social circle.”
57. I do not know anything about Mr Goh, but I am humbled by his principled stand against discrimination. It is the right and noble path, standing fast to our principles even in the face of personal dislikes. Surely we can all learn from him?
No pro-active enforcement of 377A
58. Sir, the Government has stated that it will not pro-actively enforce 377A. This may be meant as a compromise, but it is unsatisfactory and problematic. The Law Society pointed out that this position was an admission that 377A is “out-of-step with the modern world”, adding that it risked “bringing the law into disrepute”.
59. I also quote Professor Michael Hor:
“The moral force of the criminal law is blunted if there are crimes which are, the government assures the public, never to be enforced, and its “perpetrators” never brought to court and punished.
The criminal laws are the ground rules of our society and if it is to be accorded the respect it deserves, it must be reserved for conduct which the government considers to be clearly harmful to society.”
60. The Senior Minister of State has noted that there have been convictions under 377A, for cases involving abuse of young persons and acts performed in public. And I absolutely agree that such instances should remain criminalised. But 377A as it is currently worded is not limited to those situations, and covers private, consensual acts between adults as well. If the Government intends to criminalise only the abuse of young persons and public acts, then 377A should be amended to do this. But it has not been amended.
61. Furthermore, not pro-actively enforcing 377A does not mean that its retention is without cost. The Government says that it seeks to reflect the moral values of the majority, but what about the human cost to gay persons and their families? What about the cost to Singapore from those who leave Singapore because of this law? What price, this reflection and endorsement of public morality?
62. The majority of Singaporeans seems to speak as if the non-enforcement of 377A means that everything is fine – but the majority would say that. Because they are not the subjects of discrimination, because they are not the minority who has to live under the threat of 377A, a Sword of Damocles that could fall with a change of policy by the government of the day.
63. Sir, let me share with this House, the pain voiced by some signatories of the online open letter.
64. Madam Mak is a 69-year-old mother of a gay 40-something son. He and his partner have lived with her for over 13 years. She called them “the best things” that had happened to her, in her 69 years in Singapore. She wrote:
“Please tell me, Mr. PM, why are you teaching me to be ashamed of them? If this country doesn't want them, where can they go? Please tell me.”
65. Madam K, a civil servant, wrote:
“my son is gay. He came out to me when he was 22. And I was upset and i blamed myself why is my son gay… i blamed myself all the time. But he is my son. He has not changed since the first day i gave birth to him or the person he is today. I love him for who he is, for what he is. It sickens me that people think suggests that just because he is gay, our family isnt what it is. We are a family. what people do in their private lives shouldnt be an issue to anyone as long as it doesnt harm anyone else. He doesnt know i am doing this but I support this repeal. he is my son and he is not a criminal. if i can accept him, his mother who gave birth to him, who these people who so quickly judge him and condemn him?”
66. A doctor, who signed off only as “criminal doctor”, wrote:
“I'm a doctor. People tell me that's a noble profession. My parents are proud of me. My teachers are proud of me. … But I'm ashamed of myself. Why so? Because I'm gay. … It doesn't matter how many lives I save, it doesn't matter how much suffering I relieve, it doesn't matter how much good I do, it doesn't change one shameful fact. I'm a criminal doctor.”
67. Sir, please bear with me as I quote one last person. Mr Choo questioned the consequences of repealing 377A. He questioned whether, if 377A was abolished, those who supported its retention would suffer. He asked if they would be, and I quote:
“… “living in constant hardship, hysteria, agony and pain, distress and shame, fear of marriage breakdown, upset with public safety and order”, simply due to the knowledge that someone else is legally behaving in what they regard as "gross indecency" in some other bedroom?”
68. Mr Choo went on:
“Let us be honest and look where the tears and the wounds really are.
Talk is cheap, anger is free, but pain is costly. And often such truly divisive laws as s377A cost lives.”
69. And then there are those who leave. If we truly believe that every Singaporean counts, and surely we must when people are our only natural resource, then have we counted the cost of all those who have lost? I will cite only one example, to show how heavy the cost to Singapore can be.
70. Mr Alex Liang e-mailed me a few months back. He is a former Singaporean who renounced his citizenship and is now a UK citizen. By all objective measures, Mr Liang is someone who would have served the country very well.
71. We had invested heavily in him. He received a sports award for 3 years running, and was also a humanities scholar. He represented the nation in gymnastics, receiving generous training allowances. He speaks 8 languages, and had excellent academic results.
72. But the moment he completed National Service, he left for Europe and he stayed there. He had long decided to leave Singapore, as he did not see a viable future for himself in Singapore as a gay man.
73. Sir, I ask again: what price, this effort to “sign-post” the views of the majority?
The majority view
74. Even if we want to signal the majority’s disapproval of homosexuality, we do not need to retain 377A. It can be done through other means. Repealing 377A does not mean that society endorses or approves of homosexuality.
75. Let us learn from the example of the Censorship Review Committee. Its 2003 report noted the distinction between “allowing” and “endorsing”, stating that allowing certain content is quite different from, and should not be misinterpreted as, an endorsement. The same reasoning applies here.
76. In any event, this House should be leading and not following. We should lead by example. We should be doing what is right, fair and just, what is constitutional and keeping in spirit with Singapore’s cherished principles of equality and non-discrimination. We pride ourselves on doing the unpopular but right thing, so why are we abdicating our responsibilities now?
77. Sir, I get a little emotional when I hear the “sign-posting” argument. That is because it claims to sign-post values held by this House and by Singaporeans. It purports to proclaim the values that I, as a Member of this House and as a Singaporean, believe in and want to proclaim.
78. But what are these values? What is this majority view, what does the majority whose values we want to “sign-post” think and say?
79. For that, I turned to the keep377a.com website. It was set up to solicit signatures for an online open letter in support of 377A. Let me just read some of the messages that have been posted on this website...
[Deputy Speaker interrupted to inform me that I had 3 minutes left]
Do the right thing
80. Yes, Sir. Instead of reading the comments, I will just talk about what I feel this House should do.
81. I ask this House to “sign-post” the values of fairness, justice, non-discrimination, openness and inclusiveness, which are values fundamental to a secular democracy. I ask this House to endorse the view that our people should feel free to express diverse views, pursue unconventional ideas, or simply be different, that ours must be an open and inclusive Singapore, and that we should build a nation where every citizen has a place, where all can live in dignity and harmony. And if those words sound familiar, that is because those were the very words of the Prime Minister in his swearing-in speech in August 2004.
82. These are the right things to do. Some have said that Singapore is not ready, that this is not the right time to repeal 377A.
83. I disagree. I say that there is no wrong time to do the right thing. Now is the time, not to do the pragmatic or practical thing, but to do the right thing.
84. Now is the time, to turn our backs on prejudice, discrimination, intolerance and hatred.
85. Now is the time, for this House, which represents all Singaporeans, to lead by example.
86. Now is the time, to uphold the noble ideals of our founding fathers, ideals upon which our country was founded and which hold our society together. The ideals of a democratic society, based on justice and equality. The ideal of all persons being equal before the law, and all persons having the equal protection of the law.
87. Now is the time, to do the right thing and repeal 377A.
88. Sir, with that, and for all the reasons I have stated in my speech, namely the increase of so many maximum sentences without justification, the retention of the marital rape defence albeit in a limited form, and the failure to repeal 377A, I oppose the Penal Code (Amendment) Bill.
22 comments:
Thank you Mr Siew. Thank you so much. Although the law won't affect the way I lead my life, it does matter. It matters because I am and want to be part of this country. It matters because I lead a life that I'm proud of.
My profession consists of protecting the country and for this country not to protect my basic rights as a citizen dismays me.
Thank you for your eloquence and action.
I do not wish to sound like a wet blanket. But the whole parliarment sounds like a big fat joke. I am refering to Mr George Yeo's speech. At the end of the day, I am not sure if the House supports the Burmese Monk's right to a peaceful congregation, or the junta's right to shoot rubber bullets at a peaceful singaporeans, and their right to kill a Japanese journalist? As it is, I think our government of the day supports the junta, not the right of the monks and finally peaceful singaporeans. And here you are, Mr Siew trying to get 377A repealed. Thanks Mr Siew, I still don't get it, and sometimes I feels so confused and alienated here in Singapore. Let go of this 377A for now, move on. Justice and Equality for all. Of course, you can also ask all the hard questions, and it gets cencored on TV, newspapers....sigh.
Just a quick question. If 377A is against gay, why not lesbians?
Nice speech Sir.
Good on you for starting this Parliamentary Petition to repeal 377A. I read your statements regarding marital immunity against rape for a man who rapes his own wife, and just like you, I am extremely appalled that we still legally allow such things in our modern society. As such, while we're at repealing 377A, we should also show solidarity with respect to women's rights in this still largely MCP country and start a campaign to repeal Section 375, as well!
I write to applaud your action and decision to support this cause to have 377A repeal. I am sure you have considered the consequences from the onset and the ordeal you would have to go through.
You have spoken and like all good fight, we have spoken, rome was not built in a day, neither did gandhi in his quest, we will press on and sometime in the not too distance future - those who opposes to repeal 377A will look back at this and laugh at what a bigot they have been.
Meanwhile thank you for being the gandhi in creating equality for all.
Dear Mr Siew,
May I again applaud your action in presenting and supporting the petition in parliament to repeal section 377A of the penal code. You have shown great courage and character in seeking an end to prejudice and discrimination in the law, to uphold justice and equality, to defend the rights of those who are unfairly marginalized and oppressed. You have remained resolute in this endeavour despite being misunderstood and even tarred by the same brush of mindless prejudice and discrimination suffered by many gay Singaporeans.
Although you may seem a lonely figure in parliament and your voice a solitary one amidst the sea of ignorance and negativity, you do not stand alone. Take heart that you have many friends who share your principles and believe in you. Your actions are beyond commendable; you have my greatest respect and admiration.
Not that you need the praise of men; I believe there is a higher court that judges all our affairs, one that is beyond the petty politics and theatre of our terrestrial realm. And I believe that you will not be found wanting there.
On the other hand, I cannot express my disappointment and dismay with our other members of parliament who support the retention of section 377A.
Why is it so hard for them to understand that any form of discrimination, especially when enshrined in the law, is simply wrong and unjust?
Is it because they have never been the targets of invidious prejudice and discrimination, never been the victims of bigotry, hate and oppression, that they cannot comprehend the horrendous injustice of it all, let alone empathise with the plight of marginalized gay Singaporeans?
Why can't they feel the pain and anguish of gay Singaporeans, whose dignity, personhood and self worth are assailed and undermined each day, not only by the ignorant and uninformed bigots that they call "fellow citizens" but also by the very state and country that they call home? Why can't they understand that it is such discrimination and prejudice that further perpetuates the same? Why can't they see that it is the irrational fear and ignorance at the heart of bigotry causes greater harm to our society? And that to simply uphold the status quo would be to defend all of these ills?
Or perhaps they are not unaware of the above but choose to set them aside instead? If so, I think they will have disgraced themselves by their lack of compassion, understanding and wisdom. They will have made a mockery of the principles of justice and equality upon which Singapore was founded; or are the words of our national pledge merely "symbolic" as well, bereft of any real meaning or substance?
I am glad that there are courageous and principled individuals like yourself, unfraid to speak out and do what is just and right, especially in the face of great difficulty and opposition. You have my esteem and regard, as well as my vote of confidence and support, should you ever need it.
Mr Siew, an excellent speech. You hv verbalised the very essence of the matter. They dun applaud you in parliament but i give you one here and i SALUTE you!
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I spoke to some people and friends and all agree that nothing will change. Our leaders are weak and are afraid of doing the right thing. They have long lost their moral authority to lead and will only do so if you pay them millions in salaries.
I feel sad for my country, honestly. Some one wrote "if you care too much about SG, it’ll break your heart." It is so true. And people like yourself, despite your lone voice in that joke of a parliament, tells me there r many who knows what is the right thing to do.
I feel even sadder for ppl like that Thio li ann, who can no longer argue on reasons and logic but instead try to speak the language of fear, putting herself and her agenda on a high horse and beat down on the rest. And those pap MPs who are quoted in the ST, wat the hell i wonder if they have even thought thru the issues. Hri Kumar is the exception though, he made sense this time.
Kum Hong, for this and all your other efforts at trying to make Singapore a better place, I thank you from the bottom of my heart. You don'thave to, but you fight these battles all the same. I only wish more people here would wake up from their apathy and stop being comfortable where they are. People like you renew my faith in humanity.
I salute you :)
Thank you.
thank you sir for making a stand for the discriminated and marginalized in society. i really applaud your courage in standing in front of the firing line in parliment and facing such harsh criticism from people who just are cannot bring themselves to understand the implications to gay singaporeans. thank you so much again sir, you have my utmost respect.
I tried to understand Indranee Rajah's argument on the constitution. She said that if a theft was commmitted, the constitution was such that if you were a Malay or Chinese, you will be charged in court and that is what the constitution said. However, I could not follow the logic thereafter. If a man were to enjoy receiving oral sex, then I think both parties (giving and receiving) should be charged in court if the person 'giving' the blow job was a male or a female, the constitution must be blind to the race / sex of the person doing the deed. Anything else is discriminatory and harks back to Hitler's era. I am not a law student, so Mr Siew, if you can help shed light on this, it would help. Many thanks.
Dear Mr. Siew,
Thank you for your valiant effort in trying to repeal S377A. I can see from the reply from LHL (ST 23 Oct 2007, Why Singapore must 'leave Section 377A alone'), that the gahmen prefers to pander to the christian right than to do what is right, just because they had the loudest voice. I would have preferred him to stop this charade and tell the truth that the gahmen is homophobic and there is nothing in this world that would make them, the gahmen, remove that 377A.
It would seem that dividing and polarising gays is the best solution considering the fact that we are of no consequence to society as a whole.
It seems that when we are made into demons by the christian right (according to LHL) that we should not say/do anything because it is their right to make us look evil and perverted and the breakers of the fabric of society. It is all right for the "normal" people of society to have their say, but when we have ours, it is considered "push their agenda".
I know that this section will never be repealed because the christian right's voice will always overpower ours and according to our esteem PM, they speak for the 'conservative' society.
My bf and I have decided that we'll never return to Singapore and will be giving up our citizenship soon. At least now, Singapore is rid of two faggots. And the gahmen don't have to ever worry about us 'infecting' the population.
Once again thank you, Mr. Siew. At least I know there are good people in parliament.
Wolfgang
Tremendous speech, Mr Siew.
While it may not have succeeded to move the 'immovable', you have doubtlessly provided a very greatly needed quality in our parliamentary sittings.
Your efforts has succeeded in exposing the MONKEYS (see no evil, hear no evil and speak no evil) and morons that the vast majority of PAP parliamentarians are.
Don't give up the fight. Please, soldier on. Our lessons in parliamentary democracy depends on it. Thanks
Once again, thank you very much for doing what you have done, and for going through with the petition process! Even though nothing has changed, you have definitely fought the good fight!
It does sadden me to read about some of the fallacious and incoherent arguments put up by the opponents of the petition, and part of my heart and my love for this country died along with each verbal and written assault hauled at the GLBTQ community.
Perhaps it is time to seriously consider seeking an alternative place to call home, one which we can thrive in and which does not detest our very existence....
Cheerless,
Kris
You did excellent.
To all: Thank you for all your kind words.
To m.i.p: I don't know. The truth is that the Penal Code is a Victoria-era statute, and Queen Victoria did not believe that there was such a thing as lesbian sex. I am not kidding. Section 377A was added in 1938, but I suppose that thinking may have continued.
Having said that, I chose not to make that argument (although I believe Mr Hri Kumar and Mr Charles Chong both made it), because I do not believe that lesbianism should also be criminalised.
To family man: I don't know. I do not agree with Ms Indranee Rajah's argument.
To kris: I have something to say about your comment about leaving Singapore, and will post on it soon.
thank you.
the world can do without justice, and the world can do without rights. but the world cannot do without care.
and you have demonstrated that you care, more than anything.
thank you once again, and may well intents and wishes be with you.
=)
Dear Mr. Siew,
Your brilliant speech and impassioned plea had me choking back the tears on several occasions, especially when you were recounting the personal anecdotes.
The words resonated with my own experience and also those of the hundreds of gay people I know.
The gay community is eternally indebted to you. No amount of gratitude can justify the good you have done on behalf of our community.
Thank you, thank you and thank you again from the bottom of my and all out hearts.
You have deservedly carved an exalted place for yourself in Singapore and global human rights history.
To 1029 and roy: Apologies for the much-delayed reply to your very kind comments. Thank you.
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