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rel="nofollow">شحن من الرياض للامارات</a><br /><a href="https://shipping-ksa.blogspot.com/2020/01/shipping-company-from-Riyadh-to-uae.html" rel="nofollow">افضل شركات نقل الاثاث الى الامارات</a><br /><a href="https://shipping-ksa.blogspot.com/2020/01/shipping-company-from-Riyadh-to-uae.html" rel="nofollow">نقل عفش من السعودية الى الامارات</a><br /><a href="https://shipping-ksa.blogspot.com/2020/01/shipping-company-from-Riyadh-to-uae.html" rel="nofollow">شركة شحن من السعودية الى الامارات</a>Tarek Alihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12854932415280406249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4950101483476071934.post-30262587100651628652013-02-27T20:25:19.371+08:002013-02-27T20:25:19.371+08:00I agree with you on how life is not a matter of tr...I agree with you on how life is not a matter of transactions. But this proposal is not a transaction either. <br /><br />I think some commentators have pointed out (and having read his post myself), I think you may have misunderstood his proposal. It is not about quid pro quo - tax for NS. It operates more of a penalty, on the family whose child decides to evade his NS obligations. On that view, it does not seem so transactional, does it? <br /><br />It is one way of sharpening distinctions. You have proposed carrots, and this acts as a stick. We have to be practical about things, not all carrots work, some a little bit of stick to prod people along is necessary.jemhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15235864494137590175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4950101483476071934.post-48653525628016888192013-02-27T20:23:46.553+08:002013-02-27T20:23:46.553+08:00This comment has been removed by the author.jemhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15235864494137590175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4950101483476071934.post-78394293566312475152013-02-27T16:36:28.972+08:002013-02-27T16:36:28.972+08:00Hi,
I think you've missed the point that the ...Hi,<br /><br />I think you've missed the point that the NS tax will operate as an additional penalty on top of the existing penalties faced by NS evaders. The current penalties include monetary penalties (in the form of the bond forfeited and fines), jail terms, and the inability to work and study in Singapore. In other words, the tax will penalise PRs even more should they evade NS. Surely you don't think that the existing penalties are sufficient? <br /><br />You also lament that instead of making foreigners and PRs pay more, the government should instead give NS men (or Singaporeans in general) more benefits. But this money must come form somewhere. Why not from taxes collected from foreigners and PRs who benefit from our safe environment? <br />yitinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10332109889467740310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4950101483476071934.post-29712812632905681972013-02-20T08:24:40.052+08:002013-02-20T08:24:40.052+08:00Or are they also opening the door for RICH SINGAPO...Or are they also opening the door for RICH SINGAPOREANS to pay NS Duty for their sons in lieu of serving?<br /><br />Maybe that's their motive...food for thoughtXtrocioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08846520633929127414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4950101483476071934.post-18675195996376024082013-02-19T23:25:22.742+08:002013-02-19T23:25:22.742+08:00Hri Kumar was just trying to score points. The NS ...Hri Kumar was just trying to score points. The NS tax for PRs has about zero probability of becoming reality. It doesn't make any economic sense. The tax will actually make Singaporeans even worse off, by discouraging the best foreigners from moving to Singapore and increasing the cost of NS on the economy. It is only useful as a framing device to help us understand part of the problem - how would one quantify the NS contributions of a Singaporean. <br /><br />Larger discounts and free public transportation and stuff like that are all fine and actually very workable. The sums of money are small but the bigger effect is a Pat on the Back from the govt for NS service. <br /><br />But can that make up for the very real disadvantages in the workplace? Many countries have pro-local employment/ recruitment laws. That could be one way to make up some of the difference. <br /><br />They (the PAP) could implement incentives through the corporate tax code, to level the field a little more. Maybe better tax rebates to offset the cost of NS service incurred to firms and encourage firms to keep hiring Singaporeans. You can never replace an absent worker who's gone off for reservist but the effect can be mitigated so that Singaporeans will be less disadvantaged. <br /> <br />We should also be asking PRs and new citizens to contribute to national defence more. Contribute certain amount of time every year, like Singaporeans do. That will also help to balance out the scale not only at a personal/ financial level, but also at an emotional level. We might stop hating on foreigners if we see them running around in camou PT kit, touching trees for no good reason.<br />Lim Soon Chunghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09468908973525868532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4950101483476071934.post-84663974470376102242013-02-19T12:28:25.177+08:002013-02-19T12:28:25.177+08:00Dear Kum Hong,
You put all my heart's feeling...Dear Kum Hong,<br /><br />You put all my heart's feelings into exact words......cos I am very poor at writing.<br /><br />I used to be very proud of my country Singapore and during that time; should anyone even tries to thumb us down, I will be the first to shoot down any remarks or criticism but that's the past and that's the era of the 1st Generation of PAP Leaders.<br /><br />My views and feelings started to change mid-way through the 2nd Generation of PAP Leaders because my country has turned into a place as COLD as ICE.....all matters and things are measured in dollars and cents regardless of it's intrinsic value...or was there any residual value in these Leaders' eyes?<br /><br />Now, with the 3rd Generation of PAP Leaders at helm, when anyone criticises the policies and visions laid out by these leaders; I joined in and added fuel to the fire!!<br /><br />Will the 4th Generation of (not necessarily PAP) Leaders be able to change cause? My hopes looks and rest upon HSK and TCJ........would me, this old man, lives to see the day when I am (again) damn proud of my country Singapore?<br /><br />I don't know........even right now, History has not finished her last page yet.<br /><br />Regards,<br />An Old ManAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12047562256683825517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4950101483476071934.post-82505354292156551512013-02-18T21:42:26.489+08:002013-02-18T21:42:26.489+08:00I think it's fruitful to frame it from an equa...I think it's fruitful to frame it from an equality perspective.<br /><br />I think Singaporeans (like most people) are quite agreeable to inequality of outcomes, but are uncomfortable with inequality of opportunity. (Lots of good research on notions of fairness emerging from anthropology, evolutionary psychology, etc nowadays...)<br /><br />And this clearly is inequality of opportunity. The PR and foreigner gets ahead (outcome) not because of his skills, abilities, or attitudes but because he has fewer obstacles to success i.e. NS, reservist, (opportunity).<br /><br />It matters because you put these PRs and foreigners into the same labour market as NSmen, to compete "fairly" for the same jobs.<br /><br />I don't know what a better solution would be, but using this as a solution would just violate our notions of fairness and generate even more outrage.<br /><br />I suspect carrots would work better than sticks in general though. Instead of making foreigners pay more to work in Singapore, just provide more social support to NS-serving Singaporeans. We can fund it stealthily by raising taxes on everyone but just redistributing it back to NS-men. Probably less administrative hassle too. And it avoids the nasty and stupid business of putting a price-tag on loyalty (best way to cheapen priceless things - putting a price tag on it - just think of the difference between true love and visiting a prostitute).B.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11355121193464735909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4950101483476071934.post-66156504852125315982013-02-16T11:24:14.464+08:002013-02-16T11:24:14.464+08:00Better still - outsource our defence to the Gurkha...Better still - outsource our defence to the Gurkhas. Have divisions of Gurkhas instead of the current strength.Thehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02941744057903049051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4950101483476071934.post-8411617373850358322013-02-15T23:44:21.822+08:002013-02-15T23:44:21.822+08:00There are some things you can't put a price on...There are some things you can't put a price on, loyalty is one of them. If you want the PR/FT to pay pay NDD, then might as well convert army to become Singapore Foreign Legion.Reddotsghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11545285015810605851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4950101483476071934.post-66252495912252405912013-02-15T23:04:28.793+08:002013-02-15T23:04:28.793+08:00If we step back and think a bit more about Hri Kum...If we step back and think a bit more about Hri Kumar's suggestion, it doesn't even make economic sense. While I'm no economist, making PRs and foreigners pay more taxes result in the said PRs and foreigners requesting for higher salaries. Which means increasing the cost of manpower for companies in Singapore (assuming that it's true that foreign manpower is required). Increasing costs for companies usually means the costs would be passed on, in one way or another, back to the consumers. This means the tax basically FALLS BACK TO US.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03175472007729700493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4950101483476071934.post-19076060124445913692013-02-15T20:28:19.432+08:002013-02-15T20:28:19.432+08:00To my mind, the REAL underlying reason to make PRs...To my mind, the REAL underlying reason to make PRs/foreigners pay more for all such services/fees is to entice PRs/foreigners to become citizens. Everytime a PR/foreigner has to pay more for any of these services, etc, some may feel that it might be better to become a citizen and enjoy lower charges or what have you (baby bonus, tax reliefs, etc) that only citizens are accorded. So the philosophy behind it was never REALLY meant to show appreciation or gratitude.Warriorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09182550804259951197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4950101483476071934.post-78599488397174588302013-02-15T15:19:14.515+08:002013-02-15T15:19:14.515+08:00Bravo. Hri Kumar is the personification of the gov...Bravo. Hri Kumar is the personification of the government's preferred modus operandi - dollars and lack of sense.Thehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02941744057903049051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4950101483476071934.post-74739378865638967672013-02-15T14:43:57.915+08:002013-02-15T14:43:57.915+08:00While w are at it can they stop discrimatory pract...While w are at it can they stop discrimatory practices against singles and single parenta who are equally tax payimg Singapore citizens?TalkingSensehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04161246733901509423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4950101483476071934.post-80251296942950641362013-02-15T14:13:36.186+08:002013-02-15T14:13:36.186+08:00I did not serve NS, being a naturalised citizen, b...I did not serve NS, being a naturalised citizen, but I agree we simply have to move the pendulum away from the money-driven PAP theology to one that is more meaningful; and that means truly appreciateing the sacrifices of the NSmen, and not give them $100vouchers from time to time<br />Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13377554796574528508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4950101483476071934.post-68450453072542846222013-02-15T13:23:09.372+08:002013-02-15T13:23:09.372+08:00I'll drink to that. We've undervalued a po...I'll drink to that. We've undervalued a powerful institution and a common honour for far too long. Instead of advertising some platitudes about careers in the military, maybe it's time to build some strong cultural, ideological and emotional capital, and not just with $80 worth of vouchers and 1 years' SAFRA membership.Danielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13763599694570324544noreply@blogger.com