tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4950101483476071934.post6006161350639039897..comments2024-01-25T21:40:29.232+08:00Comments on Siew Kum Hong: This is not what I want Singapore politics to be likeUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger97125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4950101483476071934.post-66314575487817781302011-05-03T12:19:22.117+08:002011-05-03T12:19:22.117+08:00I agree with your views shared in this blog. Tin P...I agree with your views shared in this blog. Tin Pei Ling should be given a chance....Adminhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17730675581153980323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4950101483476071934.post-84443780441957559992011-04-27T14:44:31.900+08:002011-04-27T14:44:31.900+08:00Unfortunate - Mr Siew Kum Hong, I for one think th...Unfortunate - Mr Siew Kum Hong, I for one think that your term as NMP was stellar and absolutely look forward to you rejoining politics. I, among many others, can only hope you will reconsider in future.kapturehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09812604498622359283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4950101483476071934.post-44677565585432551372011-04-26T19:27:02.572+08:002011-04-26T19:27:02.572+08:00If Elections Dept can't even give a straight a...If Elections Dept can't even give a straight answer pronto about PAP putting up banners BEFORE Nomination Day, I don't harbour any hopes that they will take action on the posting/circulation of this YouTube video! <br /><br />Although the CIVIL SERVICE is supposed to be <i>"independent" and "above politics",</i> their track record for the last 4 decades speaks volumes!<br /><br /><b>That is why OPPOSITION PARLIAMENTARY REPRESENTATION is made all the more imperative!</b> <br /><br />The Pariah, www.singaporeenbloc.blogspot.comThe Pariahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14725490396019425388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4950101483476071934.post-23256766570289977712011-04-23T06:39:28.615+08:002011-04-23T06:39:28.615+08:00i agree with some stuff said about her being overb...i agree with some stuff said about her being overboard, but with all due respect sir, you have to realize that because people wanna know what kind of mp she's gonna be, and because we know so little about her, or any other candidate for that matter, that inevitably people are gonna dig up things that can help form their perceptions of her, and it's something that is very natural to do when u wanna know something about someone whom u know so little off, esp when the price of it is a place in parliament and managing your country...goodbye..https://www.blogger.com/profile/00523835581825692544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4950101483476071934.post-85513521660716609612011-04-05T20:47:13.345+08:002011-04-05T20:47:13.345+08:00Politics is always dirty. Welcome to the real worl...Politics is always dirty. Welcome to the real world. In today's world, where the PAP can no longer have a stranglehold on the media, everyone has a fairer playing ground.The Sun Chair Critichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03164321865465169292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4950101483476071934.post-28610775510623090312011-04-02T10:10:18.002+08:002011-04-02T10:10:18.002+08:00isnt it strange that civil servants cant join poli...isnt it strange that civil servants cant join political party / take part in politics but then so soon after serving their last day of service they can be part of a party and not only dat but bcome party's coming election candidate? shouldnt it be like a black out period eg at least 6 mths or 1 yr after retiring / resignation b4 they can join a party & / or run for election? wat purpose does it serve if so soon after leaving civil service they can be into politics? and is there any violation since its pretty obvious they couldnt hv just joined politics after they leave services meaning some of the top civil servants must hv already been in contact with political parties?g2m6https://www.blogger.com/profile/13351592240608718740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4950101483476071934.post-57078478073540323022011-04-01T22:46:19.320+08:002011-04-01T22:46:19.320+08:00And besides...
we are all just learning from our ...And besides...<br /><br />we are all just learning from our dear leader MM Lee. Let me quote from one of the more popular Forum<br /><br />"The PAP Government, over the 53 years it has been in power, is not known for its magnanimity or grace. Lee Kuan Yew, of course, can be held responsible for this, being as he was the one who sat on the throne, and still is the man behind the one who sits on the throne.<br /><br />Lee Kuan Yew’s influence, make no mistake, runs deep and wide in the PAP and the government. It is thus without a doubt that his ways influence and are practised by the lower-rungs in the government. Anyone who thinks otherwise must be completely naive.<br /><br />Lee Kuan Yew’s influence too spreads far and wide in Singapore society. Indeed, many hold him up as some sort of demi-god, and fall to their feet at his very presence.<br /><br />With this in context, lets take a look at some of the things Lee Kuan Yew has said about some people whom he dislikes or has – evidently – utter contempt for.<br /><br />It is a lesson in meanness.<br /><br />Lee Kuan Yew has :<br /><br />- Called the late Mr JB Jeyaretnam a “mangy dog”.<br /><br />- Called former president Devan Nair an “alcoholic”<br /><br />- Called James Gomez a “liar and a cheat”<br /><br />- Called Chee Soon Juan a “psychopath”<br /><br />- Called Chee Soon Juan a “dud”<br /><br />- Called Tang Liang Hong a “anti-Christian Chinese chauvinist”<br /><br />- Called former solicitor-general Francis Seow a “womaniser”<br /><br />- Called Singaporeans “dogs” – “We had to train adult dogs who even today deliberately urinate in the lifts.”<br /><br />- Called Singaporeans “daft”<br /><br />- Compared Singaporeans to animals – “the spurs are not stuck on your hinds. They are part of the herd”<br /><br />- Called Singaporeans “ignorant”<br /><br />- Vowed that he will “make him [JB Jeyaretnam] crawl on his bended knees, and beg for mercy.”<br /><br />- Called Low Thia Khiang “dishonest”<br /><br />- Called Sylvia Lim “dishonest”<br /><br />- Said this of author Catherine Lim: “If you think you can hurt me more than I can hurt you, try.”<br /><br />- Displayed gangster like behaviour towards JB Jeyaretnam: “Everybody knows that in my bag I have a hatchet, and a very sharp one. You take me on, I take my hatchet, we meet in the cul-de-sac.”<br /><br />- Called Australia “the white trash of Asia”<br /><br />- He locked up Said Zahari for 22 years.<br /><br />- He locked up Lim Hock Siew for 16 years.<br /><br />- He locked up Vincent Cheng for 3 years.<br /><br />- He locked up Teo Soh Lung for 2 years.<br /><br />- He locked up Chia Thye Poh for 32 years, totally incapacitated him.<br /><br />You get the idea." End quote<br /><br />We are all just following the example from our dear leader.<br /><br />Or do u dare to disagree with our dear leader MM Lee?? OH THE BLASPHEMY!!!!!moonraiserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12031168040109592992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4950101483476071934.post-1610026204478433252011-04-01T22:33:22.946+08:002011-04-01T22:33:22.946+08:00To Quote
'The consequence of all this, is that...To Quote<br />'The consequence of all this, is that people will be deterred from joining politics, even more so than before.'<br /><br />Well i guess this isnt really too much of a problem is it? <br />I mean...<br />-Low/No accountability for mistakes<br />-No need to apologizes for mistakes<br />-Iron ricebowl<br />-High pay while 'learning on the job'<br />-Can make personal attacks against oppo but not vice versa.<br /><br />WOW!! Just WOW..<br /><br />Now seriously i dont mind losing some privacy and i am very sure most 'lesser mortals' do not mind as well.<br /><br />So... where do i sign up to be a MP????moonraiserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12031168040109592992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4950101483476071934.post-22559493179819624512011-04-01T21:53:33.454+08:002011-04-01T21:53:33.454+08:00wah mr loy
chillax la, no need to flood our email...wah mr loy<br /><br />chillax la, no need to flood our email inbox liddat rite...err how do i unsubscribe to the follow up comments har<br /><br />anyway why u attacking mr siew so much, he speak up the most of all mps and this is the reward he gets?<br /><br />spam the pap mps who dun speak up instead la :)<br /><br />(erm actually dont...they dun have sense of humor with that sort of thing one...:P)Nicholashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07715158522299262663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4950101483476071934.post-38772770611169644682011-04-01T21:20:15.399+08:002011-04-01T21:20:15.399+08:00And this is the kind of stuff we get in exchange f...And this is the kind of stuff we get in exchange for freedom of speech. The question is: are the moments of brilliance worth the heaps of nonsense that go with it?Nicholashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10347069922608160462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4950101483476071934.post-53818049071376940762011-04-01T20:36:18.367+08:002011-04-01T20:36:18.367+08:00My last post cant get through even after a few att...My last post cant get through even after a few attempt .That really show the calibre of our NMP .Its ok ,i get the answer .Hope my post will get through tmr .If not ,that really show .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4950101483476071934.post-83911167772042728042011-04-01T20:18:20.682+08:002011-04-01T20:18:20.682+08:00Hope my post wont be deleted .If not ,that really ...Hope my post wont be deleted .If not ,that really show the democracy value thats being uphold by the our NMP .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4950101483476071934.post-43018147289251122812011-04-01T20:16:11.154+08:002011-04-01T20:16:11.154+08:00Minister of Health already concluded that all cand...Minister of Health already concluded that all candidates introduced and 2b introduced will not only do their job but do it "extremely well" ... wonder how well he know the 20+ candidates and how long has he worked with each of them for him 2b in a position to give such sweeping statements. really quite scary that some if not all of them are so confident of their choices and judgement sometimes.g2m6https://www.blogger.com/profile/13351592240608718740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4950101483476071934.post-51382099831692963162011-04-01T19:56:29.371+08:002011-04-01T19:56:29.371+08:00I agreed with Siew Kum Hong. Likewise we do not wa...I agreed with Siew Kum Hong. Likewise we do not want politics in Singapore to be one that allow a chosen candidate to go uncontested through the cover of a GRC. She needs to be really tested in a SMC.May Rulers of the World Be Righteoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01969873372516731090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4950101483476071934.post-73721961057027507572011-04-01T18:29:39.854+08:002011-04-01T18:29:39.854+08:00Guys,
The reality is there are all kinds of people...Guys,<br />The reality is there are all kinds of people in the world; some of those who don’t like or disagree with something can be loud or very persuasive. The Internet has become an effective channel for them–but not for them alone. <br /><br />The new candidates caught in the middle of the storm appear to have been caught off-guard by this. Poor preparation is the lesson, it seems. <br /><br />Before someone decides to be a politician and a public figure, he or she has to consider carefully the possible areas that are vulnerable to attacks–a prior court case, failed university course, drink driving arrest, squabble with a neighbour, etc. These are just examples, but you can see how they can become sore sticking points. <br /><br />After considering them, the party, or at least the person, must have a strategy to handle the points–a crisis plan. There are some things you can deal with beforehand. Like Mr. Siew said, some pictures can be removed online for a start; of course if someone had already saved copies, that’s too bad. Do you come clean early on? Or do you wait for it to surface? Then what do you do? <br /><br />Has anyone seen any evidence of extensive consideration or planning done to combat the backlash? There does not seem to be any. If they were prepared for the backlash, they didn’t need to admit being taken aback by the fury of cyberspace–just follow the plan. <br /><br />If we think a bit deeper still, being taken aback and unprepared possibly reflects another aspect. When we are surprised by something, it means we didn’t know to expect it, which means we don’t know it well enough. That means we are unfamiliar with it. Whatever IT is, if you want to run for office, start by knowing the people. Then you will know what buttons to push and what not to. <br /><br />Bottomline, many lessons here. For party leaders, know your candidates well. If you really want them to run, after knowing their "grey" areas, plan and prepare how to handle those areas. Know the people--your constituents. History (or PR veterans) should give you clues on how people will react.Fighting fithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04865914072977139127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4950101483476071934.post-63434074791096872742011-04-01T17:29:53.065+08:002011-04-01T17:29:53.065+08:00@ Loy
I think its unfair to accuse Mr Siew of dou...@ Loy<br /><br />I think its unfair to accuse Mr Siew of double standards or to fault him for not bringing up the issue of gutter journalism when he was in parliament.<br /><br />To be sure, there are a myriad of issues plaguing citizens, and there are only a limited number of concerns one can raise. The most pressing ones of the day tend to be aired. Further, much of the debate in parliament centres around motions for amendments to Acts or passing new laws etc.<br /><br />Consequently, Mr Siew, as just one individual, does not hold a monopoly over what can be or is debated in parliament, nor can he move a limitless number of motions to address a limitless number of issues.<br /><br />The fact that he is speaking up on gutter journalism now, cannot be construed as "double standards". Indeed it is consistent with his previous role as NMP when he dealt with pertinent issues of our day. Is he not dealing with the issue now? Should this not be commendable? Otherwise, we could enumerate an endless list of PAP misdemeanours and blame Mr SIew for not raising them all in parliament or in his lifetime.<br /><br />Finally, Mr Siew has not argued that the PAP is exempt from gutter journalism or slander. In fact he contends that they do, but we should not allow ourselves to descend to their level. How is this a double standard? He has also made the point clear that he is not defending Tin Peiling on her abilities as a potential MP. He certainly sees her as less than suitable. How is this favouritism?<br /><br />Just in case rhetorical questions make things unclear, or gets twisted as they are so apt to be on online forums, what I mean to say is that it is not Mr Siew's primary life goal to rid the world of gutter journalism. To accuse him of practising double standards when he did not raise it in parliament is rather unfair.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01862738965670570097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4950101483476071934.post-87711742390570562942011-04-01T13:10:01.793+08:002011-04-01T13:10:01.793+08:00'' Simple answer -- I was not in Parliamen...'' Simple answer -- I was not in Parliament at any time when such incidents took place.''<br /><br />Mr Siew,your arguement is weak .It take you so long to speak up on the issue of gutter journalism .The time you choose to speak up happen only AFTER a PAP CANDIDATE private life was being dig up by netizen .It left netizen wonder what takes you so long to speak up .Why u choose this time to speak up when it involve a PAP CANDIDATE ,not that of an opposition candiadte thats subject to the same treatment by the ruling party.<br /><br />Double standard or favourtism?Let netizen decide .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4950101483476071934.post-19925885819469675082011-04-01T12:36:14.816+08:002011-04-01T12:36:14.816+08:00''Loy You asked me why "i cant compre...''Loy You asked me why "i cant comprehend what hold you back from expressing that in parliament .You should have done the same thing when the ruling party dig up the private life of MR kUAN ,the potential presidental election candidate during the last election". Simple answer -- I was not in Parliament at any time when such incidents took place.''<br /><br />Mr Siew ,this is not a valid explaination.<br /><br />Since you have the opinion that such gutter journalism will bring about detrimental effect on the political culture of singapore ,all the more you should have bring it up in parliament to retify and put a stop to it regardless whether such act committed by the ruling party was done BEFORE or at the POINT of your term in parliament .<br /><br />If such gutter journalism act was committed AFTER your term in parliament ,it might be justify for you to shove off any responsiblity as a member of parliament (since you cant represent us in parliament after your term of office).Gutter journalism have been practise by the ruling party for decade ,its hard to believe you are not aware of such act .<br /><br />So ,as a member of parliament you are only authorise to comments on issue that happen during your term of office?Issues that happen previosly ,and still ongoing ,should not be include in your parliamentary debate?<br /><br />Should we wait for disaster to arrive in order to correct n rectify it(Anyway ,as i hve say ,PAP have been using such gutter journalism for decade .This is no reason for you to claim ignorance or unable to forsee such disaster ahead .)<br /><br />That what safety net is for .You put up a safety net to prevent any mishap in the future .You dont wait for disaster to appear before a safety net is in place .Claiming that a forseeable disaster which didnt occur during my term of office ,as such we cant be blame for not putting up any precaution isnt convincing .<br /><br />Should we wait for fire to occur before telling resident that its wrong to pile up unwanted items on the corridor of HDB flat?Properties and lifes will be lost by then .Its too lateAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4950101483476071934.post-64161068688869396462011-04-01T11:44:40.078+08:002011-04-01T11:44:40.078+08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Wealth Journeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11915861361512508441noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4950101483476071934.post-61960555107709818662011-04-01T11:29:13.797+08:002011-04-01T11:29:13.797+08:00@Kelvin
>> I find it so darn hilarious that...@Kelvin<br /><br />>> <i>I find it so darn hilarious that the so-called "anti-PAP" crowd is so quick to adopt the very tactics that they lambast the PAP for. What irony. I guess that makes them no better. So what "alternative" are we talking about?</i><br /><br />well, the so-called "anti-PAP" crowd is just letting PAP have a taste of its own medicine...<br /><br />As the saying goes, "What goes around, comes around..."Kojakbthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06938593018212833366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4950101483476071934.post-4575515576414561462011-04-01T11:10:35.589+08:002011-04-01T11:10:35.589+08:00Good for your Mr Siew. Now that is "oppositio...Good for your Mr Siew. Now that is "opposition" I respect. Not the vindictive drivel spewing unto the internet the last few days. <br /><br />Mr Tin has definitely not helped herself with the interviews so far, but it borders on mean spiritedness when people start assassinating even her regret of not bringing her parents to Universal. <br /><br />I find it so darn hilarious that the so-called "anti-PAP" crowd is so quick to adopt the very tactics that they lambast the PAP for. What irony. I guess that makes them no better. So what "alternative" are we talking about?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17445952832649811914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4950101483476071934.post-45606283489606938332011-04-01T10:45:52.821+08:002011-04-01T10:45:52.821+08:00grupert2000,
" Perhaps getting too philosophi...grupert2000,<br />" Perhaps getting too philosophical here....?? "<br /><br />Not at all! <br /><br />You make rational sense.<br /><br />EVERYTHING, IMO, anything worth doing must start off on a sound philosophical basis, including whether the ruling party has a right to monopolize indeed define what is and is not suitable material for the people's representative in parliament. By proposing Tin's candidacy whose background (which only a fool would think is coincidental) includes being married to the PM's own PPS speaks volumes about the truth of the purportedly 'broad' 'talent spotting' claim that the pap through Lim Boon Heng only just the other day would have Singaporeans believe. <br /><br />To put it plainly, the pap is treating its operation of the govt like a family business. You get the likes of Grace Fu, daughter of MM Lee's ex-media man James Fu and late party grassroot stalwart, Fong Sip Chee's (aka the 'rat catcher') son, Arthur Fong, etc. The background of its presnt slate you already know.<br /><br />You cannot fail to conclude that rather than a broad approach, the pap in fact practises a very fixed and conservative provincial approach to recruitment into its rank of potential govt office bearers. The hallmarks of pap recruits include their being completely loyal even servile, weak in political ambition, are thoroughly vetted inside out, have a huge group think mentality, are 'deaf, dumb and blind' when required or ordered, have weakly held and 'flexible' principles, poorly developed social consciousness and of course, greedy. Look around, examples of such pap MPs abound.Garyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14240714679371017671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4950101483476071934.post-64718932243867991152011-03-31T23:22:34.342+08:002011-03-31T23:22:34.342+08:00@Nicholas: I think you made a very interesting poi...@Nicholas: I think you made a very interesting point about the gender bias. Also the outward appearance - innocent looking. Netizens were criticised for being superficial but possibly, those who think she is a "poor young girl" are more guilty of being superficial? Human nature is something politicians got to deal with - managing themselves and the different kinds of people in this world. If you don't have true concern for the people you lead, no matter who they are, then you are in the wrong business. Perhaps getting too philosophical here....??Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01871890430047866115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4950101483476071934.post-12878600261992985842011-03-31T23:19:35.011+08:002011-03-31T23:19:35.011+08:00@Jon I think your position is very valid. But I th...<b>@Jon</b> I think your position is very valid. But I think what has happened here goes beyond what you have described re the practices of prospective employers. Prospective employers are very unlikely to ask a candidate about her and her relationship with her husband, based on a photo of a candidate with a man who is not her husband.<br /><br /><b>@Chon Wen Jun</b> You asked "What do you stand to gain by defend Singapore's very own Sarah Palin". I think you are mistaken. I'm not defending her at all. I am defending the idea that politics should be above this. I think you need to make that distinction.<br /><br /><b>@Loy</b> You asked me why "i cant comprehend what hold you back from expressing that in parliament .You should have done the same thing when the ruling party dig up the private life of MR kUAN ,the potential presidental election candidate during the last election". Simple answer -- I was not in Parliament at any time when such incidents took place.<br /><br /><b>@Gary</b> I would agree with a lot of what you've said. And that's the point -- critiquing her based on the Razer TV interview is fair game. Not the other stuff.<br /><br /><b>@badgebabe</b> I also think it is fair game to make fun of a candidate. But that's not what happened here.<br /><br /><b>@mikengkt</b> I absolutely don't agree that candidates should be given a chance to to prove themselves by showing their stuff in Parliament. That misses the point of elections, which is that candidates need to prove themselves by showing their stuff in election campaigning, <i>so that</i> they can get into Parliament. Your comment would suggest a certain sense of entitlement on the part of PAP candidates and supporters, which would be very troubling if true.TPG-iTechttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09509459045445405985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4950101483476071934.post-12757367571920842072011-03-31T22:14:38.562+08:002011-03-31T22:14:38.562+08:00Yes, it is true that she is 27 yrs of age. If she ...Yes, it is true that she is 27 yrs of age. If she is being elected into Parliament, she has a Term to show her substance and to perform well in her constituency and as a MP. Like I said before, age does not matter that much to me. We need capable MPs with practical wisdom...mikengkthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152599119791265055noreply@blogger.com